The investor and his advisers
Graham's test for whose advice to trust, what good advisers actually do, and Zweig's "trust, then verify".
FinanceGraham ch. 10About 4 min: 2 reading, 2 practiceUpdated
General education, not financial advice.
- State Graham's basic rule for relying on advice
- Describe what Graham said well-established advisers do and don't promise
- List the situations in which Zweig thinks help is worth having, and how to check an adviser
The Intelligent Investor: Benjamin Graham's ideas: lesson 11 of 24
- Graham ch. 1
- Investment versus speculation 4 min
- Graham ch. 2
- Inflation and the investor 4 min
- Graham ch. 3
- A century of market history 5 min
- Graham ch. 4
- The defensive investor's portfolio 4 min
- Graham ch. 5
- Defensive investors and stocks 4 min
- Graham ch. 6
- What the enterprising investor avoids 4 min
- Graham ch. 7
- What the enterprising investor does 5 min
- Graham ch. 8
- Mr. Market 5 min
- Living with fluctuations 5 min
- Graham ch. 9
- Investing in funds 5 min
- Graham ch. 10
- The investor and his advisers 4 min
- Graham ch. 11
- Security analysis for the lay investor 4 min
- Graham ch. 12
- Per-share earnings and their traps 4 min
- Graham ch. 13
- Comparing four companies 4 min
- Graham ch. 14
- The defensive investor's screen 4 min
- Graham ch. 15
- The enterprising investor's screen 7 min
- Graham ch. 16
- Convertibles and warrants 6 min
- Graham ch. 17
- Four extreme case histories 7 min
- Graham ch. 18
- Eight pairs of companies 7 min
- Graham ch. 19
- Shareholders, managements and dividends 5 min
- Graham ch. 20
- Margin of safety (1): the idea 5 min
- Margin of safety (2): in practice 7 min
- Graham appendix 1
- The superinvestors of Graham-and-Doddsville 6 min
- Graham postscript
- Graham today 7 min
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Pairs with Graham, The Intelligent Investor, revised edition with commentary by Jason Zweig (HarperBusiness, 2003), chapter 10, "The Investor and His Advisers"
What it is
Graham notes something odd about investment advice: in most businesses you ask experts for help, but you don't expect them to tell you how to make a profit. In investing, people do.
His basic rule. If you rely mainly on others' advice, then either:
- you and your advisers stick strictly to standard, conservative investments, or
- you know the person directing your money unusually well and favourably.
You can judge less conventional suggestions only once you know enough to judge them yourself, and at that point you've become an enterprising investor.
What good advisers do. Graham describes the well-established, fee-charging investment counsel firms of his day as modest in their promises: careful, conservative and competent rather than brilliant. Perhaps their chief value, he says, is shielding clients from costly mistakes. That is as much as a defensive investor has the right to expect.
Quick check
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According to Graham, what is the chief value of a good investment adviser?
- Graham says their chief value is shielding clients from mistakes; anything beyond a conservative return is extra
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Shielding clients from costly mistakes. Careful, conservative and competent; protection against mistakes.
Why it matters
Advice can help, but Graham questions whether anyone can reliably deliver more than an average return on request. Graham's rule keeps you from being sold unconventional ideas you can't judge.
Zweig lists signs that help really is worth having: big losses (worse than the market's), budgets that don't add up, chaotic portfolios (many holdings that all move together), and major life changes, such as becoming self-employed or helping ageing parents.
Worked example
Trust, then verify (Zweig, borrowing Ronald Reagan's phrase), plus his questions for an interview. Before hiring an adviser:
- Ask people you trust for a referral.
- Search the adviser's name and firm for complaints, fines or disciplinary action.
- Check the adviser's record with the relevant official regulator.
- Ask how they are paid, and what they would recommend for someone like you.
None of this guarantees a good adviser, but it filters out many bad ones. (In the U.S., the SEC's Investor.gov has a tool to look up an investment professional's background.)
Common mistake
Expecting an adviser to deliver above-average returns. If you demand more than an average return, or an adviser promises it, then, as Graham puts it, the question arises whether more is being asked or promised than is likely to be delivered.
Key terms
- investment counsel
- a professional adviser paid a fee to manage or advise on investments
- due diligence
- checking someone's background before trusting them
- conflict of interest
- when an adviser's pay depends on what they recommend
- defensive investor
- Graham: should stick to standard, conservative investments when relying on advice
Practise the key terms
Tap a card to turn it over. 4 cards.
| Front | Back |
|---|---|
| investment counsel | a professional adviser paid a fee to manage or advise on investments |
| due diligence | checking someone's background before trusting them |
| conflict of interest | when an adviser's pay depends on what they recommend |
| defensive investor | Graham: should stick to standard, conservative investments when relying on advice |
Practice
Sort it
In Zweig's list, a reason that help may be worth having?
Your portfolio lost far more than the market
Big losses.Show answer
A good reason to seek help. Big losses.
You can never save on a regular schedule
A busted budget.Show answer
A good reason to seek help. A busted budget.
You want someone to promise you'll beat the market
No adviser can reliably promise that.Show answer
Not one of his reasons. No adviser can reliably promise that.
You've become self-employed and need a retirement plan
A major change.Show answer
A good reason to seek help. A major change.
All 20 of your holdings rise and fall together
A chaotic, undiversified portfolio.Show answer
A good reason to seek help. A chaotic, undiversified portfolio.
Quick quiz
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Graham's rule for an investor who relies on advice:
- That's exactly what Graham warns against
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Stick to standard, conservative investments, unless you know the adviser unusually well. You can't judge unconventional ideas without the knowledge to do it.
In short
- Relying on advice? Stick to conservative investments, or know your adviser very well.
- Good advisers are careful, conservative and competent; their chief value, Graham suggests, is protecting you from mistakes.
- Zweig: help is worth having after big losses, with budget trouble, chaotic portfolios or major life changes.
- Trust, then verify: check an adviser's background before handing over money.
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Check yourself
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Why does Graham find investment advice unusual compared with other business advice?
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People expect investment advisers to tell them how to make a profit, which ordinary business advisers aren't expected to do.
Name two of Zweig's signs that you might need help.
Show answer
Any two of: big losses, a budget out of control, a chaotic portfolio, a major life change.
What does "trust, then verify" mean for choosing an adviser?
Show answer
Start from a trusted referral, then check the adviser's record, complaints and pay before relying on them.
Further reading
- Benjamin Graham, The Intelligent Investor, revised edition with commentary by Jason Zweig (HarperBusiness, 2003), chapter 10.
- On this site: Paying for advice.
- Investor.gov, the U.S. SEC's investor site, including a search for an investment professional's background (a U.S. example).
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